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I added a "larger version" link to the bigger picture and continued to use the thumbnail, because it looks significantly sharper (esp. in the flower center) than the auto-generated thumb. Stan 07:07, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wrong Subfamily?

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National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) places the genera Eryngium and Sanicula in the tribe Saniculeae in the the subfamily Saniculoideae. Germplasm Resource Information Network (GRIN) places the genera within the same tribe Saniculeae but in the subfamily Apioideae. ITIS does not recognize either the subfamily or the tribe. The APG IV system on the Angiosperm Phylogeny Website by the Missouri Botanical Garden (MOBOT) also places the two genera in the Saniculoideae. At least two recent molecular DNA studies of the subfamily Saniculeae maintain the placement of both genera within the subfamily Saniculoideae. No discussion of moving the genera could be found. If the placement in the subfamily Apioideae is an error, that error is repeated by Wikipedia on both Eryngium and Sanicula pages. Johnvalo (talk) 15:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Botanist help needed - are these really synonyms for same species

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Eryngium agavifolium Griseb. - agave-leaved sea holly Eryngium aquaticum - rattlesnake master Eryngium yuccifolium - rattlesnake master, button snakeroot Jemoulton (talk) 01:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sea-hollies seem mostly prickly - needs byword on whom it's prickles ward against...

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...guess the sea-holly's unbidden guests would be slugs and snails and suchlike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:A956:103:F8BF:42CB (talk) 01:31, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"usually spiny leaves" or usually thorns? or prickles?

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There is a noteworthy sundriness to the aforesaid. Most 'hollykind' are known for their prickles rather than spines. Reckon it should instead read "usually prickly leaves". . . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:A956:103:F8BF:42CB (talk) 01:37, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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