Talk:Tricorne

History

67.200.118.1 (talk) 15:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)* any chance a concise history of the tricorne hate could be added, as well as the different styles of tricorne hates used in the 18th century? Nyrmetros 16:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the tricorne also worn by the Guardia Civil of Spain?

Edit war

Previous edit was a shot in an edit war, when consensus hasn't been reached. Please cease and desist until the community reaches consensus. The Editrix 12:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point us to where the discussion is taking place please? Rklawton 14:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. On my talk page. Which is bizarre, but there you go. The Editrix 17:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one who's unilaterally trying to impose her strange categorizations on Wikipedia, without even having the common decency to offer the remainder of us peons on Wikipedia one single shred of meaningful explanation. The fact that you've been silent on your user talk page for three days now (while very actively editing on Wikipedia all the while), indicates that you have no meaningful explanation to offer -- and that being the case, I feel no hesitancy in reverting to the categories that were there before you started unilaterally imposing your individual agenda. Frankly, your high-and-mighty accusations of "edit-warring" don't go very well together with your refusal to offer any meaningful explanation for your uncooperative unilateral actions (which others have called into question as well as my self).Churchh 13:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images

The pensioners image is really cool, but it faces to the right. To keep it from facing off the page, it needs to be on the left side. However, this messes with formatting. I'm trying to sort out a better solution. To help, I've added an image that faces left and provides better detail of the hat itself. I still like the pensioners image, so I've just moved it down. Unfortunately, it messes with the bullet point formatting of the "See also" section. Ideas? Rklawton 04:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone to insert University of Minho's academic dress tricorne? It would be the only recent one in this gallery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.82.87.180 (talk) 16:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Picture too dark

The image of the beaver tricorn at the top is so dark the hat can not be distinguished from the black background. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.65.55 (talk) 03:38, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Purpose of the Tricorne

I wanted to know if anyone knows what the purpose of the 3 cornered hat. Was it just for style or was it used to help keep the sun out of the eyes of the user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.170.38 (talk) 00:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Musket: left or right shoulder?

The article states that the tricorn is cocked to the left to allow a musket to sit on the right shoulder.

I am a member of a Revolutionary war re-enactment group, and the standard position for carrying a musket on the shoulder is on the LEFT shoulder. The command for that position is, "Shoulder your firelocks". This command is used as a position when presenting arms, when loading and firing, and it's the most common position when marching.

There are times when the musket is carried upright by the right shoulder (the command for that is "Advance your firelocks"), but that command isn't issued very often. Most of the time, when carrying a musket on the shoulder, it's on the left.

I'll find some resourses to back this up, and when i do i'll change the article, but if someone reads this and has proof at their fingertips, (or Von Steuben's drill manual) please correct this mistake.

67.200.118.1 (talk) 15:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK I found documentation:

The 1764 Manual states "...the left elbow not to be turned out from the body; the firelock to be carried on the left shoulder, as low down as can be admitted without constraint; the three last fingers under the butt; the fore finger and thumb before the swell the flat of the butt to be supported against the hip-bone, and to be pressed so that the firelock may be felt against the left side, and that it may stand before the hollow of the shoulder, not leaning toward the head nor from it; the barrel almost perpendicular."

Manual Exercise of 1764, New York edition, 1775 (reprint).

and Baron von Steuben's drill manual (which was a streamlined version of the 1764 manual) states "...the left elbow not to be turned out from the body; the firelock to be carried on the left shoulder, at such a height that the guard will be just under the left breast; the fore finger and thumb before the swell of the butt; the three last fingers under the butt; the flat of the butt against the hip-bone, and pressed so that the firelock may be felt against the left side, and stand before the hollow of the shoulder, neither leaning toward the head nor from it; the barrel almost perpendicular."

Steuben, Baron Frederick von, Baron von Steuben's Revolutionary War Drill Manual, reprint of 1794 edition, New York; Dover, 1985

67.200.118.1 (talk) 16:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

The reference below is nowhere to be found:

- Castells, Albert. "Los tercios viejos y la presencia española en Flandes", Espasa, Madrid, 1997

Is this a journal or magazine article? Is it a book chapter or part of a conference proceedings? It clearly is not a book.

It is thus necessary to rectify the reference, to complete it, or to delete it.

Ggiroche (talk) 15:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Moderrn usage and legacy

To "doff" is glossed as "to remove and replace". While it's true that the ceremony requires the triple removal and replacement of the hat, to "doff" only means to remove. Obviously you have to remove it before you can replace it again.

To doff your hat is a gesture of respect (it's respectful to go bare-headed). It's the opposite of to "don", i.e. donning and doffing.

I don't know whether this is worth fixing, but I propose to delete "and replace", in the interests of encyclopaedic accuracy.

MrDemeanour (talk) 13:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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