Talk:Captain Corelli's Mandolin

	Novels portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Military fiction task force, which deals with Military novel (prose) articles.
	This article has an incomplete infobox template! - see Novels InfoboxCode or Short Story InfoboxCode for a pattern.

Image

Is there not a better picture of the front cover? The colours are really strange and it's a bit pixellated (I'm a bit of a newbie and haven't worked out pictures yet!) Rocket71048576 22:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

The 'referenced' section was vandalised with 'that is a poo poo'. It's been removed.

Neutrality

I dispute the neutrality of 'beautiful love story'. The neutrality of this article is hereby under dispute.

I dispute your not being pompous. Your being pompous is hereby under dispute.

Er... I just removed the word 'beautiful'. I think it's safe to undispute the neutrality of this article... :) --Bookandcoffee 22:02, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I dispute that it's a love story. There is a love story there, but to categorise it so narrowly denies the greater themes of the book. Corelli himself is but a minor character in many ways.--Alun 13:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I dispute that its a story. As Aristotle says, a story has a beginning a middle and and end. This story only has a middle. Don't call it a story, call it a vignette.

How about Captain Corelli's mandolin is an historical novel (or vignette).--Alun 15:50, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A love story is simply a story dealing with love, which this book is, albeit amongst other sings, so why not 'Captain Corelli's Mandolin is, amongst other things, a love story.' Personally I would say it is beautiful, but I can understand why that is not neutral! --Silex 06:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently there is some confusion as to what this narrative can be effectively described as. I think the best thing would be to rename it a 'story' with a major theme of romance with other themes surrounding it. Although I do take exception at the idea that this story is a 'vignette' - the story has a beginning and an end as most people would agree. The fact that the beginning deals with the life before the occupation (setting the scene) and Pelagia's early life and that the end brings things up to the time (a rough denouement, despite its nature of continuum) of writing should suggest, by Aristotle's definition, that this is a story.

129.234.4.1 13:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This reads like a (not particularly good) school book review.

I am no expert, but having just read the book, it seems obvious that the story first of all has a beginning, middle and end. Beginning with the Dr starting a history of the Island, little knowing the Island is about to undertake the most turbulent period in it's history, and ends with the lovers being reunited and the discovery of the original document started by the Doctor in conclusion to the personal history. But why would we take Aristotle's definition of a story anyway? By that the Iliad is not... Also Bernieres is writing a 'personal history' of the Island mirroring that of the Dr. And a theme I saw was of free will (or lack of), the only people in the story who had true freedoms were Hitler and the DUCE, the rest seemed to have the courses of their lives dictated by events beyond their control.

Love

Why isn't Carlo's love for Francisco and Corelli mentioned? Sophy's Duckling 06:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My best guess is that people are uncomfortable with it... Still i have contributed a little on that section, if anyone would care to eloborate further be my guest. The Minion Reunortis. 13:32, 3 December 2006 (CAT)

Citations

captain Aldo Puglisi in love with Caterina Pariotis the book it is inspired is : The White Flag by Marcello Venturi published in 1967

see Guardian article for info on relationship with The White Flag and with Amos Pampaloni, on whose story Venturi's book was based. Also Athens News article which mentions the documentary Are you Captain Corelli? [1] [2]--PeterR 23:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Captain Corellis Mandolin book.jpg

Image:Captain Corellis Mandolin book.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 06:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Title

My book is just called Corelli's Mandolin, not Captain. What is the correct name? Shouldn't we mention the alternate name? Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 02:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The title was shortened for the U.S. edition; I don't know why. --anon.70.23.178.7 (talk) 04:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the Granta from 1993 with de Bernières in, he says that he's tired of giving his novels such long titles and plans to call his next one just "Corelli's Mandolin". I don't know how this fits in, but I'm sure it's relevant :) Skittle (talk) 20:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding was that the book was originally published in hardback (by Secker and Warburg) as "Corelli's Mandolin" and that subsequent editions added "Captain" to match the film title. But maybe I'm wrong. Kirker (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently both titles were used. Could someone please sort otu which title was used when? Thanks, Maikel (talk) 09:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I had a look around through various book-searches and libraries. The Secker and Warburg first edition (1994) cover shows "Captain Corelli's Mandolin". Various other editions over succeeding years also show "Captain Corelli's Mandolin", and many of these also pre-date the film. A Pantheon edition which claims to be the first US edition (1994) cover shows "Corelli's Mandolin", and a Vintage edition (1995) cover shows "Corelli's Mandolin: A novel". On the basis that the first edition title, and also the title by which the book is almost universally known today (2010) both in popular awareness and in reference sources, is "Captain Corelli's Mandolin", I'll adjust the article to describe the book as having this title, noting that in the US it was originally published as "Corelli's Mandolin". I think this summarises the situation fairly. If anyone can improve on this or further enlighten, please do so. Mooncow (talk) 04:05, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PS -- I've also updated the release year to 1994, rather than 1993 as previously shown. The first edition is dated 1994, and various sources including the author's own web site give the book as 1994. I've included references. Mooncow (talk) 04:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Mandolinfilm1.jpg

The image Image:Mandolinfilm1.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
That this article is linked to from the image description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --00:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plot

I don't know if this standard practice on articles about novels but at no point in this article is there really a description of the plot beyond a discussion of the main themes and characters. While those are obviously very relevant, without a plot they would only really make sense to people who have read the book. 23.15, 17 July 2010 (BST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.208.127 (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Captain Corelli's Mandolin. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20111003231123/http://www.mercurytheatre.co.uk/shows.php?id=876 to http://www.mercurytheatre.co.uk/shows.php?id=876

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers. —^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:52, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Captain Corelli's Mandolin. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20111009101051/http://www.mercurytheatre.co.uk:80/fs_brochure.php to http://www.mercurytheatre.co.uk/fs_brochure.php

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 11:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Iannis

Louis de Bernières book "So Much Life Left Over" features a Dr Iannis from Cephalonia who has a daughter called Pelagia. Dr Iannis works as a ship's doctor and is entirely self-taught. We are informed that he was so competent that nobody ever challenged his competence in all the years prior to his death in an earthquake. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 19:28, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]