Talk:Key Biscayne

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This article is almost entirely erroneous. I've tried editing it so that it is accurate, however those edits have apparently been redacted. I grew up on Key Biscayne so I know from first hand information

Key Biscayne and Miami Beach are two separate entities. Key Biscayne is an island several miles south of Miami Beach. Miami Beach is indeed on a peninusula connected to the Florida mainland. Miami Beach is also connected to the mainland via several bridges and causeways, none of which is the Rickenbacker Causeway. The city of Miami Beach is not in Key Biscayne, the only municipality in Key Biscayne is the Village of Key Biscayne. Key Biscayne is not a barrier island, it was formed by mangroves growing attop limestone ridges over thousands of years. Biscayne Bay National Park is primarily a marine reserve some 12 miles south west of Key Biscayne. The only parks on Key Biscayne are Crandon Park, managed by Miami-Dade county and Bill Baggs Cape Florida Park, run by the State of Florida.

Key Biscayne and it's neighbor, Virginia Key, are the most northern of the Florida Keys, an archipelago of dozens of islands whose southern-most island is Key West. The only bridge to Key Biscayne is the Rickenbacker Causeway, named for the famous World War One flying ace Eddie Rickenbacker. Key Biscayne was also the Florida home of former president Richard Nixon during his stay in office. Key Biscayne also hosts an international tennis center, home to the NASDAQ Tennis Tournament and a golf course, along with many amenities for water sports and fishing.

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.19.134.3 (talk • contribs) 12:40, April 21, 2004.

GA Passed

Per the criteria spelled out in WP:WIAGA, I have reviewed and am promoting this article to Good Article status. Congrats on a well-written and well referenced article. Perhaps a nomination for Featured status is in order as well. Good luck and happy editing! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 07:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Proposed split

I'm proposing that the material covering the island of Key Biscayne outside of the municipality be moved to an article to be called Key Biscayne (island). After all, the municipality of Key Biscayne covers only about 1/3 of the island. I think it is confusing to mingle the information the way it is now. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 16:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Has anyone followed up on this, or did it fail? A similar article to look at would be the city of Key West, Florida & the island of Key West. They don't have separate articles and they are different, as the city limits extend beyond the island onto adjacent islands. This is an opposite example, since the city is smaller than the island. In this case I think it's logical to have an article on the island and have the city as part of that article. Or, is it Wik policy to have a separate article on all cities/towns/villages? - Marc Averette 14:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

As an afterthought... the island of Key Largo has separate articles from the towns of Tavernier, Florida, Key Largo, Florida and North Key Largo, Florida. Maybe they should be merged as well? There could be redirects for the towns to go to the main Key Largo island article. - Marc Averette 14:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea to merge the articles suggested. The only problem with merging these is Key Biscayne is at Good Article status, but since Key Biscayne encompasses the town, we should merge this with the island but do so carefully as to not jeapordize its GA status.--Jorfer 17:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged the village into the island article for the above reason.--Jorfer 15:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Split again

I have split the village back off the island article due to the fact that this article is already long and unweildy without the addition of the municipality. Just because the municipality exists entirely within the island is no reason to relegate it to a subsection status - all other independent municipalities are granted their own independent article. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 16:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

As the editor who last year split this article about the island off from the article about the village, I support this move. The island of Key Biscayne is divided into three more-or-less equal sized parts, and I think it is appropriate to have separate articles for those three parts, i.e., Crandon Park, Village of Key Biscayne, and Bill Baggs Cape Florida park. This article is the appropriate place for information about the island in general, including its history before the Village and parks were created in the second half of the last century. -- Donald Albury 23:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Is the "n" silent? My GPS seems to think so, but this random internet site pronounces the N. http://www.pronouncehow.com/english/key-biscayne_pronunciation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.99.167.178 (talk) 03:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Notable residents

This would be better if it had a Notable residents section. Like the good article Coral Springs, Florida --2604:2000:E020:9500:13C:B448:63DE:59A4 (talk) 22:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

A notable resident section seems unnecessary. Also, the section on the Coral Springs article is largely unsourced. Wow (talk) 00:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

GA concerns

After skimming through the article, I am concerned that it does not meet the good article criteria anymore. Some of my concerns are listed below:

• There are numerous uncited statements.
• The history of the island stops at 1966
• It relies primarily on Blank 1996 as a source. Are there other sources available?

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article? Z1720 (talk) 20:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I wrote most of the article 18 years ago (and almost 80% of it still has my name on it), but I was not involved in taking it to GA. I have too many other things on my plate to feel much about this right now, but maybe I'll look at it later. Donald Albury 00:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Key Biscayne

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:37, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Numerous uncited statements. The history section stops at 1966 and needs to mention recent events. The lede needs to mention information about the history of the location. Z1720 (talk) 14:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I relied almost exclusively on Blank's book when I started this article 18 years ago. The local library has a non-circulating copy, so I can look in it to provide citations for a lot of things. I may be able to gain access to The Book of Key Biscayne by Jim Woodman, although I suspect Blank used it as a source. Donald Albury 17:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

As to recent history. Crandon Park and the Village of Key Biscayne were created in the mid-20th century and the Bill Baggs Cape Florida State Park was created in 1966, and most of the history of Key Biscayne since then has really been about one of those entities and not the island as a whole. There may be a few events that affected the island as a whole, but Hurricane Andrew is the only one I can think of off hand. There may be something to say about how changes to the Rickenbacker Causeway and Crandon Boulevard have affected access to the island, but events on Virginia Key and along the causeway itself are not part of the history of the island. Donald Albury 13:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

It is probably worth mentioning the incorporation of the eponymous municipality as that seems a major event for the island, and some although not all of the municipal history, as this would be in keeping with the existing text in History which does cover the inhabitants and various demographic and infrastructure developments. I also wonder if there is something more to add regarding sea level rise giving the mentioned low elevation, but at a quick look I couldn't find anything not focused on the municipality. CMD (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

OK, the article mentions the beginning of the housing devekopment that led to the incorporation, but does stop too soon. Some more about the creation of Crandon Park could also be added, comparable to the coverage of the creation of the state park.

A quick Google search found a number of news items focused on the effects of sea level rise on the municipality, more or less ignoring the rest of the island. Google Scholar results are rather sparse on articles about contemporary sea level rise at Key Biscayne.

My todo list keeps growing as I (temporarily) set aside articles I'm working on to deal with the next thing that comes along. Maybe I will get to the library this week to look at the Blank book. Donald Albury 13:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

The sea level rise does seem to be either municipal level or Miami-Dade level, up to your editorial call as to whether and how it could be included in the article. CMD (talk) 13:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

I added page numbers to a couple of cites, and added cites for what I could find in the Blank book. I also rewrote a couple of small bits after reviewing the Blank book. There are still things I haven't found a source for, and parts of the article should be rewriten. Donald Albury 22:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Donald Albury, do you still intend to improve this article? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29: I hope to work more on it sometime, but I don't know when that will be. Don't hold off on any action waiting for me. Donald Albury 00:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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