Talk:Khiam
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I would like to find a way of resolving the "disputed neutrality" status of this article. I created the article some time ago, and it was accorded this status pretty much immediately. Since then I have attempted to temper my somewhat over-zealous first draft. Is this status still necessary? If so, how can it be resolved?
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[edit]As the user who added the disputed neutrality tag has not been able to substantiate this, and as I consider this article to be perfectly neutral, I have removed the disputed neutrality tag. Please do not reinsert this without providing substantating statements of some kind.
Faulenzer 22:23 29th November 2004
I have been to Al Khiam one month ago and met a member of Hezbollah who showed us where he was stripped naked and forced to walk on his knees on sharp stones, and when bloody, had salt rubbed into his wounds while he was being tortured. I have also seen the beam where the people were hung up for days until they died. I have seen the list of SLA and the names of the false doctors who told the Red Cross that they were qualified but instead were part of the torture teams.
Dennis 8th July 2005
- What happened in Khiam is horrible indeed, but please not that Hezbollah is using Khiam as if it owned the place. For example they minimize the role of all those who were not affiliated to them (mainly communists). They took over the place and they run it according to their propaganda policy. This is illegal, the prison is army property, but in southern Lebanon Hezbollah = law .
- Hezbollah has advanced the furthest in this regard. It has set up a rather haphazard "museum"/propaganda vehicle at Khiam. They forget to mention the stories of the many Communists held in prison there and they place inordinate attention on their own fighters, but they have taken a step in the right direction.
- What happened in Khiam is horrible indeed, but please not that Hezbollah is using Khiam as if it owned the place. For example they minimize the role of all those who were not affiliated to them (mainly communists). They took over the place and they run it according to their propaganda policy. This is illegal, the prison is army property, but in southern Lebanon Hezbollah = law .
- Amal is the second best in this field. The site of the Qana massacre has become a decent museum and is much less of a vehicle for propaganda. Yes, all of the staff are members of Amal. And, yes, the lives of the multiple Fijian soldiers killed during the Israeli attack are mentioned only on a small plaque outside of the main grounds on a monument donated by the UN.[1] [2] --equitor 16:28, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Very true, well said Equitor. The same happened when the Lebanese prisoners were released by Israel. The fact that other organisations played a pioneering role in the resistance is airbrushed out of history by Hizbullah. Palmiro | Talk 18:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
- The article is certainly not intended as an apology for Hisbollah. Please feel free to add details of Hisollah's (mis)appropriation of Khiam if you are well-informed about this.
Faulenzer | 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I am in the late fourties of my age now, I am lebanese for over thousand years, and I can assure readers of this few lines, that, it is true that some parties in Lebanon had it's share in resisting the israeli occupation of south Lebanon, but the fact is they didnot achieve much, were not patient enough, not prepared well, didnot have the popular base behind them and last, but not least, they stopped and died out(in terms of resistance)as hezb-allah started it's long struggle with the agressor israeli forces. Hezb-allah fought israel in a different way to the others.Hezb-allah learnt from mistakes, worked very hard on it's fighters to lift their level in fighting, manouvering and surveilance methods.That is enough for now...
Moved material on the detention center to its own article
[edit]I moved the material on the detention center to its own article. I don't expect this to be controversial, because it is clearly a topic worthy of an article of its own, and this page should be devoted to the town itself. Sanguinalis 15:39, 26 August 2006 (UTC)