Talk:Pacific hurricane season

Weird Stuff

I've been investigating some of the old Eastern Pacific hurricane seasons. There is some weird stuff out there. I thought it was too cold for tropical systems to last north of San Diego but in 1975 a tropical system formed in at 30N and reached hurricane strength at 40N. It continued as a tropical system until it was just a couple hundred miles from Alaska's Inside Passage! Take a look-[1] Hurricane Dot in 1970 also formed north of the Hawaiian Islands and continued as a tropical system to 40N. More of these northerly storms seem to occur in the 50's,60's,and 70's than in the 80's and 90's. I wonder if there is some kind of cyclonic activity cycle similar to that of the Atlantic Basin. I think that this basin is arguably the most mysterious one in the world (though the North Indian Basin is close).

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 04:06, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good Luck

Whoever is doing the individual articles, good luck when you get to pre-1970. As a contributer of the List of Atlantic hurricane seasons, I wish you luck on your voyage into the past...... wow that sounded corny. One thing, on the List of notable tropical cyclones in the EPAC or CPAC section, if there is a link to a specific article (1939 Long Beach Tropical Storm), you should just write the season article and have someone redirect it there. Here are some sites that might help you.

http://www.weather.unisys.com/hurricane/e_pacific/index.html (Only till 1949)
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/cphc/pages/hurrclimate.php (Central Pacific)
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/whhcalif.htm (Tropical Storms to affect California)

Track maps

I uploaded a few more pacific hurricane track maps. — jdorje (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1896 Pacific Hurricane

A Hurricane in 1896 or 1897 is supposed to have closed a 1 km land "door" (called Boca meaning mouth - referring to the entrance of open seas to a bay) in what it was then called Altata, now called Old Altata by the elders, since Altata is now where they moved out of fear of another hurricane like it. I'm trying to find information about this legendary hurricane but I haven't been able to find anything about it. Here's some information about Altata:

Altata (the actual place):

Small town in the pacific coast of NW Mexico, 150 MI north of Mazatlan 24o37'55" N 107o55'47" W

The Old town, is supossed to have been 3 MI northwest of the actual Altata, at about 24o39'16"N 107o57'52"W and the Bar, the old Boca that was closed is allegedly located just in front of there 24o38'39"N 107o59'05"W. There was an entrance of open seas' water there. This hurricane also opened another Boca (mouth), still existent located to the SE of the old one: 24o34'06"N 107o52'34"W.

I have been told this story a few times by different elders, who listened the story from their parents and grand parents. Recently found an article in a local and forgotten magazine-like book and which I'll translate here:

A Cyclone "closed" the Boca

Altata's elders say of the existence of "old port", place located 3 miles north from the entrance to the town by the Navolato-Altata highway, where there still is some evidence of it, although buried under the sea, prooving that it was an inhabitated place. This place dissapeared when in 1896 a cyclone destroyed houses and small ships, also closing the natural Boca that existed north the Peninsula de Lucernilla, closing the door to the steam engine ships and at the same time opening the new boca to the south in front of the port Las Aguamitas.

Afraid of another cyclone like it, the "old town" neighbors founded the new town, now known by Altata...

>>UN CICLÓN "CERRÓ" LA BARRA. >> >>Los viejos pobladores de Altata, hablan de la existencia de "puerto viejo", lugar ubicado a cinco kilómetros, al >>norte, tomando como punto de referencia la "entrada” al puerto por la carretera Navolato-Altata, donde aún >>existen vestigios que aunque cubiertos por el agua del mar, denotan que fue un lugar habitado, atribuyéndosele a >>su desaparición la destrucción de las casas y embarcaciones por un ciclón que azotó en 1896, cerrando o azolvando >>la barra natural que existía al norte de la Península de Lucernilla, obstruyendo el paso de vapores, al tiempo >>que se abría una nueva barra al sur de la misma península frente al campo pesquero Las Aguamitas y a la >>desembocadura del Río Culiacán, que se usó sin mayores problemas como paso hacia la bahía de Altata. >> >>Ante el temor de que se presentara un nuevo fenómeno climatológico que les causara mayor daño los vecinos de >>"puerto viejo" fundaron el pueblo de Altata que hoy conocemos...