Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bronx River Road
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The result of the debate was keep. Joyous 03:22, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
Doesn't establish notability: Road vanity. --fvw* 21:52, 2004 Dec 29 (UTC)
This was intended to be a link from the neighborhood list for Yonkers, New York. It's not just a road, it's also a neighborhood as well.
- Delete. My concern is, appart of saying it's a road (or a neighborhood) what is specific ? Many important roads on the planet had fire. Does not look very specific to me. Gtabary 22:45, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. For several reasons, but most importantly the deletionist elements around here are making up non-sense terms like road vanity. What, did the road get a Wikipedia account and decide to write an article on itself? Nelson Ricardo 22:51, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing noteworthy about the road or the neighborhood that I can see, according to the article. "Wakefield Towers" might (or might not) be worthy of an article, but not the road it's on. Shimeru 22:54, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Specific? It's very specific. Bronx River Road is a distinct area of Yonkers. It's both a street and neighborhood, like Pelham Parkway in the Bronx. Don't think of this as a "street" article, think of it as a "neighborhood" article. If Crestwood can get an entry, so can Bronx River Road. Is it the word "Road" that causing confusion?
- Keep. Mikkalai
- Keep seems significant enough, and can be used to link articles on other places together, almost like some kind of pathway. Kappa 01:00, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable. Megan1967 01:23, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Rhobite 02:15, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: The Bronx River Road runs in Bronx, too (shock!). It's a long road. Calling it a neighborhood is misleading. Suggesting that this neighborhood is organized around this road and is notable enough to standout beyond any other neighborhood anywhere else (e.g. Canberra) is too far a stretch. Geogre 04:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- You are confusing the road with Bronx River Parkway. The road is in Yonkers only. Nelson Ricardo 12:01, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
- You're right. I was confusing the two. I still have to say that a neighborhood needs to be known outside of its own city to be encyclopedic, but I was mistaken about this one. Geogre 14:03, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Merge into Yonkers, New York and delete -Skysmith 11:09, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Bronx River Road was once a street in the Bronx as well, but the name was changed to Webster Avenue.
- Keep. Maybe I should start Wikiproject:Roads. --SPUI 20:53, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep -Ld | talk 05:06, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep - What in the hell does road Vanity even mean? --Is Mise le Méas, Irishpunktom 11:04, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- A claim of "road vanity" is the claim that people are writing about the road or street because they live on it themselves. The clearest case of vanity is when someone writes about himself. I must be of wide interest because I am interesting to myself and my friends. By extension, there is "school vanity", "road vanity", "hometown vanity", "boy scout troop vanity": the subject must be interesting because I am associated with it, and I am interested in it. --BM 14:06, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I think the "vanity" issue is the balance between the self-actualization needs of contributors, and the needs of Wikipedia users. I think the "vanity" in a vanity article is: "I feel like creating an article of my own, and all the good titles seem to be taken. So, I'll start an article about a soft drink consisting of the ingredients list copied from the label. Or an article about a local shopping mall. Or a list of songs whose titles contain the name of a color." Such articles are "all about me" regardless of their subject matter. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:26, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- A claim of "road vanity" is the claim that people are writing about the road or street because they live on it themselves. The clearest case of vanity is when someone writes about himself. I must be of wide interest because I am interesting to myself and my friends. By extension, there is "school vanity", "road vanity", "hometown vanity", "boy scout troop vanity": the subject must be interesting because I am associated with it, and I am interested in it. --BM 14:06, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep this so-called road vanity. GRider\talk 23:34, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Andre (talk) 21:31, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Borderline keep because it's a decent, informative, well-written article. Wouldn't oppose merge-and-delete into Yonkers, New York, which is where it should go if its main significance is in relation to that town. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:32, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Major local roads are encyclopedic. Wikipedia is very detailed, so these type of articles are common and in fact, I think, should be encouraged (to an extent of course). Brownman40 05:11, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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