Talk:Assemblies of God

Famous Adherents

A new line should be developed for famous adherents such as John Ashcroft, Sarah Palin, etc. Quintessential1 (talk) 19:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think AG is small enough to need a famous adherents section. Since there are 60 million members, I'm sure a vast number of them have achieved fame or become notable. Sorafune +1 23:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Just so everyone is aware, there is already a list on this. See, List of Assemblies of God people. I added a link to it to the see also section. Ltwin (talk) 01:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Distinguished Theologians

A line should be considered to include distinguished theologians of the past such as Stanley Horton and present, Craig Kenner for example (although I don't think he actually teaches at an A/G university). Quintessential1 (talk) 19:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

4th largest body of Christians

I'm puzzled by the removal of this statement by saying that the World Methodist Council, etc. are larger. The source, if you read it, is not talking about any kind of Christian body. It is talking about international religious denominations. The AG is one denomintion (though a very decentralized one) while these other groups are organizations of fellowship for different denominations that share a history and tradition. They do not have an idea of themselves as one single movement as the AG does. Ltwin (talk) 17:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

It's not really that so. In Latin America there are many Assemblies of God sometimes competing in the same area, for example in Argentina there is a native Assemblies of God (linked to the WFAG), a Scandinavian Assemblies of God (not linked to the WFAG), two distinct Brazilian Assemblies of God (one is affiliated, other not). The statistics count all them as one group for bearing the same name, while they are even compete among themselves. Sometimes they eve re-baptize members coming from different Assemblies of God.

I met several German pentecostals which their church is part of the WFAG, but they reffer themselves as Federated Pentecostal (Bund).

Is the Independent Assemblies of God, and other similar-named group in North America the same as the General Council?

The AG is not a single international denomination. The WFAG is a loose forum for independent groups, as it is the World Methodist Council, the Reformed Alliance, and the Lutheran Federation.Leonardo Alves (talk) 22:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes there are groups with similar names. Like there are groups named Anglican who are not apart of the Anglican Communion, but know one says its impossible to give a number for the membership of the Anglican Communion! Churches with similar names have nothing to do with this. The reference cited is referring to the religious body of the Assemblies of God not a plethora of different denominations who happen to have similar names. Also, just because a WAGF affiliate goes by a different name doesn't mean it isn't counted with the overall WAGF numbers. But it is recognized that they are part of a worlwide movement. The World Methodist Council, Reformed Alliance, and the Lutheran Federation are composed of very distinct groups who associate. The AG on the other hand has fellowships, whether based on national borders or an ethnicity, who are a local and national representation of a worldwide movement. In this respect, it is very similar to the Anglican Communion which also has a very loose structure but nevertheless is seen as one worldwide movement with independent national representations. Ltwin (talk) 23:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Even the Assemblies of God USA refers to the WAGF as one denomination:

Dr. George O. Wood was elected chief executive officer of the Assemblies of God at the 52nd General Council in August 2007. As general superintendent of the Assemblies of God, USA, part of the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world . . . see here Ltwin (talk) 23:45, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to throw a wrench in the discussion, but it seems that if one is counting major Christian communions, the Assemblies of God is actually the fifth largest. The Roman Catholics are first (1.25 billion), Eastern Orthodox second (225-300 million), Anglican Communion third (85 million), Oriental Orthodox fourth (84 million), and Assemblies of God fifth (68 million). Please correct me if I am wrong, but I'm just going off the Wikipedia articles for these other communions and comparing them. The Famous Adventurer (talk) 10:27, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Time to split the Brazilian AG article?

According to the Assembleias de Deus article, the Brazilian AG split into at least 3 different organizations. The General Convention of the Assemblies of God of Brazil (CGADB) seems to be the WAGF affiliated denomination. Unless these movements have been reunited, I think its time that each one get its own article so each denomination can be looked at individually. The Assembleias de Deus article would best become a disambiguation page for any Brazilian denominations named "Assemblies of God". Please comment at Talk:Assembleias de Deus. Ltwin (talk) 06:24, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Assembleias de Deus Africanas

I'm assuming that the name of the English translation of this denomination is "Assemblies of God Africa" or something similar. Is this affiliated with the World Assemblies of God Fellowship? If so, is this denomination the same as the Mozambique Assemblies of God? Please comment on Talk:Assembleias de Deus Africanas. Ltwin (talk) 22:12, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Pentecostal Union of Romania

The "Assemblies of God of Romania" are recognized officialy, since Mars 20 2008, as Apostolic Church of God from Romania (Cultul Creştin Penticostal – Biserica lui Dumnezeu Apostolică. The Pentecostal Christian Cult is made of pentecostal state unions merged into the Pentecostal Union of Romania (ro:Biserica lui Dumnezeu Apostolică). In Romania there are Mennonites and other non-denominational Christians that use the name "Assemblies of God".

CfD nomination of Category:Pentecostal pastors

Category:Pentecostal pastors and related categories have been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. Ltwin (talk) 17:05, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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1914 founding general council in Hot Springs, AR or Little Rock, AR?

This article says the general council of preachers and laymen in 1914 was in Hot Springs, Arkansas. My grandfather Bernard Edward "Ed" Tietz attended that meeting and our family stories say it was in Little Rock. To back this up while Ed was in town for the council he found a young boy living on the streets in Little Rock and adopted him. Is there another source to verify which town had the general council? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrendaDave (talk • contribs) 21:26, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Biased Against Marco Feliciano and Social Christian Party in Brazil section

PSC is not a far-right party (despite being a very corrupt one), Feliciano left the party in 2018 and the accusations of sexual misconduct against him was a scam of a well-knowm convicted fraudster and psychopath liar. Please reform the Brazil section, is unjustified heavily biased against Marco Feliciano. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.59.1.187 (talk) 06:47, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

"White supremacist"

• @TheLionHasSeen reverted my removal of the phrase "white supremacist" as a label for those who started the Assemblies of God in the US. The sources cited describe how the AG's founding ministers were loosely affiliated with the black Church of God in Christ but split from it to form the AG. However, the sources do not describe the AG's founders as "white supremacists". This kind of description needs to be actually stated in reliable sources - preferably by reliable historians. There is currently no reliable source labeling the founders a "white supremacists".
• In his edit summary, TheLionHasSeen wrote that I had a "Seeming WP:CONFLICTOFINTEREST". I don't. I am not a member of the Assemblies of God. I was raised in the broader Pentecostal movement, and while I still identify as a charismatic Christian I have never been a member or attender of any Assembly of God church. Ltwin (talk) 04:43, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Ltwin, I stand corrected upon examining the sources. Thank you. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 04:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Name Change

Would it be more fitting if this page is renamed "World Assemblies of God Fellowship" instead of just "Assemblies of God"? Tinihere (talk) 02:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

@Tinihere, it has to be the WP:COMMONNAME. Ltwin (talk) 03:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. This is helpful. Tinihere (talk) 04:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Controversies section

This content is misleading. The Assemblies of God Statement of Fundamental Truths document that is being criticized is that of the AG USA and not of WAGF. Tinihere (talk) 08:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Sermons 96.18.14.25 (talk) 15:21, 29 September 2024 (UTC)