Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gingerbread (Buffy episode)
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep --SPUI (talk) 03:03, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I seriously doubt episodes of a television B-series deserve their own articles. Even if this episode is more significant than other episodes (example: Buffy dies or something), I'd still say merge with the main article. Waste of bandwidth as is.--67.142.129.10 05:19, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, cleanup. Everyking 05:32, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep but it needs work a lot of work. Having episode pages is not uncommon and BtVS is certainly notable by WP standards. Ben-w 06:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Buffy is not a B series. Kappa 07:25, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, there's clear consensus about articles about major television series. Is there consensus about anon VfD nominations? Samaritan 13:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per strong precedent toward keeping TV episodes. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:59, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep episodes from notable TV series. —Xezbeth 17:37, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep if WikiProject: Buffy are informed and do something with it --TimPope 18:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and give the Buffy WikiProject some time to clean it up. We can still delete it if there's no improvement in 2 months. Buffy is certainly notable enough to have episodes listed. Mgm|(talk) 20:11, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - wait until I write my article "Joss Whedon is God" and you can delete that instead. --Mothperson 21:45, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. If Star Trek and Doctor Who episodes are worthy of articles, so too is Buffy. I'm not even a fan and I consider the rationale behind this nomination to be very POV. Remember Wikipedia is not paper. 23skidoo 23:03, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete There is no comparison between Buffy and shows such as Star Trek or Doctor Who. I'm sure there are places online to find this sort of information - and it's not like this vote will really matter anyway. --BDD 23:56, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment You're under no obligation to explain your vote, of course, but I'm wondering just why you say there's no comparison between Buffy and Trek or Dr. Who. They're all long-running cult TV shows with plenty of spinoffs, movies, mechandise, books, conventions, and strong fan communities. It seems there's a lot that's comparable between the 3 series as far as notability is concerned. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:18, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. I second Andrew's statement. I don't even like Buffy but I agree that there is enough notability to warrant episode articles. Likewise other major cult shows like X-Files. Wikipedia is not paper and if someone is willing to go through the effort to create and maintain such articles, hey that's fine by me. 23skidoo 03:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment You're under no obligation to explain your vote, of course, but I'm wondering just why you say there's no comparison between Buffy and Trek or Dr. Who. They're all long-running cult TV shows with plenty of spinoffs, movies, mechandise, books, conventions, and strong fan communities. It seems there's a lot that's comparable between the 3 series as far as notability is concerned. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:18, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge into one article summarizing episodes per season, like X-files and Futurama (TV series - season 1)Futurama. Split later, if needed-LtNOWIS 02:12, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. I agree with suggestions made by LtNOWIS above. If, someday, we get more relevant content than 2 vague lines, then the episode might deserve its own article. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 04:52, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
Changed vote to keep after seeing the elaborate nature of other "(Buffy episode)" articles. Is there a {{Buffy sub-stub}}? If so, apply it here. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 09:11, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
- As the Buffy-stub notice is now in place, Strong keep. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 04:22, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge as LtNOWIS suggests. The length of the other episode-articles is too much, in my opinion, it also starts to get into copyright problems - Andre Engels 10:17, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. There is absolutely a premise for episode articles, like Dr. Who and Star Trek. Buffys writing is so rich and complex, and it is such a long-running show, that the character pages fill up with dizzying amounts of information; episode articles limit this. In response to the "get more relevant content" criticism, that is being addressed. I am the creating member of WikiProject Buffy; one of our goals is to increase the quality and accuracy of stubs. Our stub-notice has been placed on the article linking back to our project. We are taking on an awful lot of articles, so it may be a while before the article is worked on, but it will be brought up to standards. Anyone who would like to help on this or any other article is welcome to -- just visit our project page (above). Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 19:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I am slowly but surely working on episode writeups for Buffy. I hope to get to this episode and fix it up. Pseudovector 13:39, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, given the custodianship undertaken. James F. (talk) 16:48, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- keep please this should not have been removed Yuckfoo 20:53, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Not liking a TV show is a bad reason to VfD its articles.---Isaac R 03:06, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Buffy's a cult show that deserves detailed articles as much as something like Star Trek or Simpsons does. Vashti 06:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or Merge to a list of episodes, since it's very short. Break out as needed. 14:45, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Fix. I made some notes --jenlight 07:14, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
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