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Poisonous

I have often heard that Juniper berries are poisonous; however, not so in the quantities present in gin. Any idea where this legend comes from and if there is any factual basis?

Some first peoples in BC were willing to eat the fruit from Juniper (Turner, Nancy J. Food Plants of Interior First Peoples (Victoria: UBC Press, 1997) ISBN 0-7748-0606-0) and even the bark, but both in small quantities. Does anyone know any more about this? Anyone know specific chemicals in the berries that would be toxic? Khono (talk) 12:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Juniper berry oil has GRAS status (Generally Recognised As Safe), and has many uses in food and drink besides gin, so unlikely... Cjsunbird (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Individual species

Transferring the individually described species to separate pages - more to follow. MPF 01:18, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

When I'm done the classification page in full, I'll remove the duplication on the main page MPF 01:52, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Router vendor

Juniper could also mean a router vendor so, how do you highlight that — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.51.33.181 (talk) 22:27, 18 September 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Done - MPF 20:27, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

How many species?

The description box to the right says that there are 50-55 species, while the first few sentances state that there are 50-67. Maybe someone should take a look at that, as I am not a biology expert:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.117.111.12 (talk) 20:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An oversight; sorted. - MPF 17:50, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New World/Old World

Is the division in New world and Old world accepted? I think it sounds too United States centred, Wouldn't the American continent and the Eurasian continent be more descriptive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.251.135.118 (talk • contribs)

It is the most compact way of putting it; several Old World species occur in Africa as well as Europe and Asia, so saying 'Eurasian continent' doesn't fit. - MPF 09:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Juniper as an aquaretic

Juniper is listed as an aquaretic on the Wikipedia aquaretic page and also on the diuretic page. I don't know enough about this myself to add anything to the juniper page; perhaps someone could look into this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.42.100.65 (talk) 19:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Native American medicine, diabetes, and current studies

There were claims made re the effectiveness of juniper as a remedy for diabetes, based on traditional Native American usage; there was a "fact claim" warning generated; the proper source *may* be the Tilford book, but it is unclear from context whether the Tilford book is a source for all claims in the start of this paragraph or just the contraception claim. I linked to some contemporary scientific (apparently) studies re juniper, diabetes, and Navajo practice. In general I left in *treatment* as a verifiable claim but removed any reference, stated or implied, to proven efficacy, which is apparently still controversial. Doprendek (talk) 21:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The reference given was only research to establish that juniper is used by Navajo for diabetes - not about its effectiveness... Cjsunbird (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Good article, may need a few more bits on history or uses of the plant, but other than those, its good. Improve on that for me to nominate to GA -- Warfreak 03:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I enjoyed reading this article, but I would have liked to see more information regarding climate envelope or how the juniper came to rest in the areas it colonizes currently Abigail.Karter (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Information to Add

The major areas of improvement I want to tackle on the Juniper article are adding an ecology section and improving the uses section. I think it would be helpful to have information on the page about the general understanding of the Juniper plant as well as how it survives in the environment. I found a lot of articles on how it interacts with the environment both positively and negatively, so it would be useful to put both viewpoints to keep the article neutral. Furthermore, there are several additional uses of the Juniper berry and oil apart from the ones listed. I think I will be able to expand that section as well as add a touch of Navajo history to that.

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Belsky, A.J. 1996. Viewpoint: western juniper expansion: Is it a threat to arid northwestern ecosystems?. Journal of Range Management. 49(1):53-59.

Bombaci, S. and L. Pejchar. 2016. Consequences and of pinyon and juniper woodland reduction for wildlife in North America. Forest Ecology and Management. 365(1):34-50.

Chamber, J.C., S.B. Vander Wall., and E.W. Schupp. 1999. Seed and seedling ecology of pinon and juniper species in the pygmy woodlands of western North America. The Botanical Review 65(1):1-38.

Christensen, N.D., A.W. Sorenson, D.G. Hendricks, and R. Munger. 1998. Juniper ash as a source of calcium in the Navajo diet. Journal of the American Dietic Association. 98(3):333-334.

El-Ghorab, A., H.A. Shaaban, K.F. EL-Massry, and T. Shibamoto. 2008. Chemical composition of volatile extract and biological activities of volatile and less-volatile extracts of juniper (Juniperus drupacea L.) berry fruit. Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. 56(13):5021-5025.

Gallo, T., L.T. Stinson, and L. Pejchar. 2016. Pinyon-juniper removal has long-term effects on mammals. Forest Ecology and Management. 377(1):93-100.

Grieve, M. 2014. A modern herbal. Dover Publications, United States.

see also: Juniper oil. Traditional pitcher extraction | Lost trades | Documentary film — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.24.60 (talk) 08:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lyons, R.K., M.K. Owens, and R.V. Machen. 2009. Juniper biology and management in Texas. DSpace software, United States.

Miller, R.F., T.J. Svejcar, and J.A. Rose. 2000. Impacts of western juniper on plant community composition and structure. Journal of Range Management. 53(6):574-585.

Rawat, Y.S. and C.S. Everson. 2012. Ecological status and uses of juniper species in the cold desert environment of the Lahaul Valley, North-western Himalaya, India. Journal of Mountain Science. 9:676-686. Nsanghani (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sahti is not flavoured by Juniper Berries

Common mistake here. Although it is written all over the internet, it is the wrong interpretation of sahti as a juniper beer. The Sahti is the traditon of my mother's people (small area of Häme / Tavastland / Tavastia, where sahti is still actively made) and I've seen the authentic one made as a child, as well as tasted it. While there might be accidental juniper berries available, when making sahti, they are not the flavouring. The flavour comes from juniper needles. Berries are used as flavouring in Finland as well, but not for making sahti. I think this misundestanding was propably made, as people talked about sahti as a juniper beer (which it is) and as the common part of juniper to use in flavouring are berries, and some one or some people made wrong conclusions. I've even seen people flavouring beer with juniper berries and calling it sahti, but that is not sahti, that is something else. 91.225.69.21 (talk) 07:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC) 91.225.69.21 (talk) 07:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]