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Dan Ackman (March 21, 2005). "John DeLorean, Car Man Of The Future". Forbes.

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GM vice president

DeLorean became a General Motors vice president when he was named General Manager of Pontiac in 1965. The 1972-73 position was a higher level VP title. Crassus731 (talk) 02:29, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of Mother

"DeLorean's mother was a Hungarian citizen of Hungarian origin." Pribak, the mother's name is without a doubt a Serbian surname and there were Serbians living in Austria-Hungary at the time. Only one of the sources (the Hungarian one) actually mentions her origin to be Hungarian, but this could also just refer to her citizenship and not to her ethnicity. -Anonym142857 (talk) 19:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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This article implies that Chapman commited suicide. The article on Chapman says he died a natural death from disease. 2A00:23C4:7C8D:9C01:FC8D:F30D:4AAC:336C (talk) 10:36, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The account of events given in this article is unsourced, and seems not to accord with what is said in the Chapman biography - this clearly needs looking into further. For now though, I'll alter the wording to at least remove implications of an unnatural death. AndyTheGrump (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sheila and Sally Baldwin are not his relatives

Our team will be submitting legal evidence, lawsuits show Sally was NOT married to John, depositions from John and a professional nursing license in the name of Baldwin until 2010 along with a lack of any marriage certificate shows a lack of marriage to Sally Baldwin. All references to her being his wife were after his death or when he was hospitalized (dog lawsuit) it has been established that Sally is not his wife. Sheila was never acknowledged as his daughter while he was alive. Original obituaries show her as Sheila Baldwin delorean because her name had not yet been changed.

If she was born to John DeLorean the newspapers would have found out a 78 year old famous person had their first child in decades and published something prior to his death. There is no record of either being delorean prior to his death. Wired fact checked and had legal documentation otherwise faced defamation charges no penalties exist for the obituaries you cite.

this false narrative is harmful to the real family of John DeLorean and their fight for their legacy.

From the family, evidence showing a changing marriage date. The sheepdog article cites Sally saying they were married after she left the farm in order to sue for the dogs, in a deposition in 2018 she said she married him in 1998. The date changes the time in which Sheila was conceived John was recovering from a triple bypass surgery. There is no record of Sally or Sheila prior to John’s death. 75.100.94.156 (talk) 20:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Who is 'our team'? If you have any connection with someone involved in a legal dispute regarding the late John DeLorian and/or his business interests, you need to read the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guideline, and make your connection clear - which will almost certainly require registering an account (as an individual, we do not permit group accounts). Having said that, if there is an issue with this article, we are of course open to looking into the matter, and correcting it if justified. That will however require published reliable sources, per Wikipedia policy on article sourcing. As for the Wire article, [1] it states Kat DeLorean's side of an ongoing dispute. We can certainly consider citing it for that. What we cannot do, however, is ignore all the other sources, and simply take her version as authoritative. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]