Talk:God (male deity)
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Rationale for article creation
[edit]Reading the Goddess-article, I noticed that there was a specific article about female gods, but not about male ones. The one linked to in the Goddess-article is about deities in general, regardless of gender. Therefore I started this one. 83.83.3.190 01:37, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Wasn't logged in when posting the message above. Djadek 01:38, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Hmmm. This kind of bothers me. I was trying to create a link to an article on a god in general, and it seems that there should be a general article about all polytheistic gods, instead of merging them. Am I missing such an article? Unschool (talk) 18:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Accuracy tag
[edit]I don't know about other religions, but in Judaism, God is most assuredly not a male deity. The word for a god is masculine grammatical gender, but this does not mean that God is male. In Hebrew, the word for war (an activity generally associated with men) is feminine, while the word for a woman's breast is masculine. I'm pretty sure God is also viewed as genderless in Islam and Christianity. I think the biggest problem with this article is probably that English doesn't have the concept of grammatical gender, only natural gender, and so translations into English from languages with grammatical gender seem to portray a world which is actually only an inappropriate and incorrect projection of English language/culture. Tomer TALK 03:59, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)
- I must admit I'm not completely 100% sure about Judaism. In both Christianity and Islam, however, people refer to their god as 'Lord'. Being from an orthodox protestant family myself, I never heard of God being genderless, only as male... Djadek 11:42, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- In Christianity, God is referred to as "Our Father", as in the Lord's Prayer. The only thing that makes me sway towards genderless is allusions to a mother hen who shelters her chicks. MyNameIsNotBob June 30, 2005 00:14 (UTC)
- Granted. Even in Judaism, God is referred to using masculine allusions, but God transcends gender: in Judaism at least, and I'm pretty sure in Islam, the idea of attributing human characteristics to God is regarded as something that is done only to help us understand God's nature, but the second anyone says that any of those human attributes are really describing God, you've gone from helping humans fathom God to having God being created from the human imagination, which is variously described as idolatry, blasphemy, heresy, etc. etc. etc... This applies equally to ascribing gender to the Almighty. Is there any kind of theological or other source that can be brought to support the assertion that Christianity views God as masculine? If so, that should be cited, otherwise this article should make clear that allusions to God as masculine in Christianity as well are figurative, rather than a statement of belief that God is male. Tomer TALK June 30, 2005 18:39 (UTC)
- In Christianity, God is referred to as "Our Father", as in the Lord's Prayer. The only thing that makes me sway towards genderless is allusions to a mother hen who shelters her chicks. MyNameIsNotBob June 30, 2005 00:14 (UTC)
- Well, I really don't believe that God being male is a minority view. I've got a religious background, met and spoke many people from other denominations, and I never, never heard anything about God being genderless or above gender. I can't imagine all those people, and me, have no idea what their religion is about. If you've got sources proving that there is theological consensus about God transcending gender, I'd like to see them, but even then, I don't think this is a majority opinion among believers. Therefore, I don't believe the accuracy tag is correct.Djadek 3 July 2005 10:04 (UTC)
- As so far only one person complained, and didn´t react, I removed the accuracy tag. Djadek 14:02, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
This page is disgustingly lacking. Compared to the goddess counterpart, this page has almost no information at all. I understand that interest in a male god figure is not as virulent as goddesses these days, but at least something can be done here.
And for future reference, the Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Sikh God is genderless -- there already is an article for God and His gender. Lxx 06:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
In Genesis 1:27 when God creates man, it says "God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them." This must mean that he has the characteristics of both male and female. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.116.67 (talk) 11:24, 11 September 2006
Validity
[edit]I highly doubt the validity of the following statements: "and Modern day technology. Modern examples include: "The Neon Wind" who is considered by many to be the God of Blog.the god of wade gullet resides in a small town where he playes allot of guitar hero with his friends", and unless someone can provide any actual proof that these are actual deities and not made-up bs, I'm going to delete these statements! Halstrom 19:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Case
[edit]The title of the page should be "god" not God. A page titled "God" would need to deal more with Monotheistic religions like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
The title is capitalized because it is, well, a title. Even polytheistic gods become capitalized if they occur as the first word of a sentence. --dab (𒁳) 12:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Merge
[edit]Should this be merged somewhere? There was a previous suggestion to merge it to Pantheon (gods) which makes little sense. Merging to God would be more sensible, but perhaps controversial. Leaving it on its own is the safest solution. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Polytheism
[edit]This page seems to both completely misunderstand historical polytheism and how its deities worked as well as have an incredibly shallow and modernist comprehension of those pantheons, which were (and in the case of living religions like Hinduism) not static, varied by region, and are largely artificial constructions of the 19th and early 20th centuries.