Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poispakkoruotsi
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - deleted - SimonP 00:25, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
This article has been a stub for two years. Only two pages link to it. I doubt this is anything more than a topic in a dissatisfied group, and does not need a separate page. --Fred-Chess 08:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Being a stub for a long time is not a reason to delete. Keep -- Thv 08:44, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)
Whilst short, this article appears to the point and on a subject deserving of note. Keep, on the basis that the term would be what would be searched for. --Simon Cursitor 11:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) Deleted; vote revoked; per Finnish comment below --Simon Cursitor 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I can not find any English pages about poispakkoruotsi on google.com, except for pages derived from wikipedia. --Fred-Chess 12:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Keep the finn-cruft! Seriously though, the stub seems notable.- Delete per Finn below --Scimitar 15:18, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Merge with Mandatory Swedish.Delete per Captain Disdain. Salleman 21:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)- Delete. As a Finn, I'm familiar with this. Let me to give you guys some information: There used to be a www.poispakkoruotsi.com where people could sign a petition to remove mandatory studies of Swedish from schools. (They were aiming to get 15,000 names, but ended up with 8,401 -- they closed the petition in August 2003.) The petition was delivered to the powers that be. In any case, it's gone now -- the site's for sale. Seriously, this is not notable at all. I wouldn't even redirect it anywhere; it just isn't something that's likely to be a relevant entry point of research on Wikipedia for anyone. I mean, it's not even notable in Finland (the topic of there being an ongoing argument against mandatory studying of Swedish is, obviously, but "poispakkoruotsi" itself was just a really minor campaign with no impact; there have been -- and undoubtedly will be -- numerous other petitions of similar scale), let alone on the international scale Wikipedia operates on. It just isn't notable enough -- it isn't likely to be a term used by anyone researching the subject, either.
- Delete as I defer to the Finn. However, I'd ask that he rewrite a small stub of information for the Mandatory Swedish asticle so that this article does not get created again since there is no mention of this petition. Vegaswikian 05:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I suppose I could, but actually, I'd rather not. I don't really see any chance of this article being recreated -- it was originally created when the petition was still in existence, presumably by someone who was involved with it or felt strongly about it. (Even then, it was pretty much a vanity page; I'd say it was created not to provide information but to advertise the campaign.) Point is, the petition was already closed and delivered almost two years ago; there's no impetus for anyone to recreate the article now. Like I said, it's not the only such petition ever created and there will undoubtedly be many others... but unless one of them actually proves to be significant enough to have an impact on national policy or is of note in some other way, I'd rather not mention any one of them by name just so as to not afford any one of them status that they really don't deserve. However, I'd be happy to write in a mention of there having been numerous petitions and other similar undertakings to pressure the decisionmakers on this issue, but that none of them have been successful; that's true and not an insignificant phenomenon in itself, even though the particular campaigns have been less than noteworthy. -- Captain Disdain 10:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Added the following to the mandatory Swedish page: "There have been numerous petitions and other similar campaigns undertaken by citizens to pressure the lawmakers, but to date, they have had no significant impact on the established policy and have not attained a great deal of momentum. Thus, while the ongoing national debate is often heated and passionate, it has yet to reach a point where there is enough opposition to mandatory Swedish to force the government to consider a change of policy." Oh, and I also removed the link to the poispakkoruotsi article. -- Captain Disdain 11:06, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I suppose I could, but actually, I'd rather not. I don't really see any chance of this article being recreated -- it was originally created when the petition was still in existence, presumably by someone who was involved with it or felt strongly about it. (Even then, it was pretty much a vanity page; I'd say it was created not to provide information but to advertise the campaign.) Point is, the petition was already closed and delivered almost two years ago; there's no impetus for anyone to recreate the article now. Like I said, it's not the only such petition ever created and there will undoubtedly be many others... but unless one of them actually proves to be significant enough to have an impact on national policy or is of note in some other way, I'd rather not mention any one of them by name just so as to not afford any one of them status that they really don't deserve. However, I'd be happy to write in a mention of there having been numerous petitions and other similar undertakings to pressure the decisionmakers on this issue, but that none of them have been successful; that's true and not an insignificant phenomenon in itself, even though the particular campaigns have been less than noteworthy. -- Captain Disdain 10:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Mandatory Swedish covers this topic already, efforts should go to improving that article. jni 17:05, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.